WhiteStrat Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Gente, necesito que me recomienden algun pedal de distorsion bueno, que me permita asemejarme al sonido de gilmour, que puede ser? Un Rat? Un OCD ? Es para usar con Strat! Gracias, necesito comprar medio urgente algun pedal de dichas caraceristicas ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mama kin Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Gente, necesito que me recomienden algun pedal de distorsion bueno, que me permita asemejarme al sonido de gilmour, que puede ser? Un Rat? Un OCD ?ES PARA USAR CON UNA STRATO !!! Gracias, necesito comprar medio urgente algun pedal de dichas caraceristicas ! Distorsion no se... pero delay seguro tenes que tener... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stang Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Si queres leer en profundidad, anda a www.gilmourish.com Ahora tratando de responder lo que preguntas, todo depende de que distorcion (sonido) estes buscando...si es algo mas de fines de los 60s vas a necesitar un fuzz de germanio...para lo posterior un fuzz de silicio, algun big muff o....a mi parecer el pedal mas versatil para Floyd...un rat. Sabiendo perillearlo le podes sacar miles de sonidos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perro Negro Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Gente, necesito que me recomienden algun pedal de distorsion bueno, que me permita asemejarme al sonido de gilmour, que puede ser? Un Rat? Un OCD ?ES PARA USAR CON UNA STRATO !!! Gracias, necesito comprar medio urgente algun pedal de dichas caraceristicas ! Distorsion no se... pero delay seguro tenes que tener... Si es analógico, mejor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablostrummer Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 con el ocd y el rat lo vas a alcanzar pero me parece que el mas versatil es el rat que hasta podes fuzzearlo un poquito a parte hay una mod que logra endulzarle un poco los agudos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusrenguero Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Big Muff Pi y un Rat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.k. Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Que guitarra y ampli tenés? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberto Carbone Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Fuzz Face y/o Big Muff + delay + overdrive para boost. Hay unos pedales brasileros (sí, brasileros), marca Top Tone, que son básicamente, Big Muff con las mod de Pete Cornish entre otras mod que parecen que andan muy bien, el chabón, un tal Olmar García, te cobra 599 R$ con gastos de envío incluídos, que vendrían a ser unos 300 verdes, acepta paypal pero, a eso sumale un 50% de aduana + 15% extra de impuesto en la tarjeta, o sea vas a tener un fuzz de unos 500 verdes. Paso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tictus Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Creo que acá ya habían preguntado lo mismo.. viewtopic.php?f=103&t=15588&hilit=bol+uditto biggrin El sonido de Gimour es jodido. Porque el tipo usa, por ejemplo, un Big Muff.. pero se que si yo uso el Big Muff no me suena ni parecido! Se me va a sumar y salir ruido por todos lados. La pedalera del ingles debe estar llena de cosas para que el suene así (Mas que nada sus dedos son los que le dan la impronta, claro). En fin, con un solo pedal difícilmente logres obtener un sonido Gilmour. Pero bueno, depende del sonido gilmouriano que busques, tal vez sea posible que tus problemas se solucionen con un Over Drive del estilo Boss Blues Driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perro Negro Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Fuzz Face y/o Big Muff + delay + overdrive para boost. Hay unos pedales brasileros (sí, brasileros), marca Top Tone, que son básicamente, Big Muff con las mod de Pete Cornish entre otras mod que parecen que andan muy bien, el chabón, un tal Olmar García, te cobra 599 R$ con gastos de envío incluídos, que vendrían a ser unos 300 verdes, acepta paypal pero, a eso sumale un 50% de aduana + 15% extra de impuesto en la tarjeta, o sea vas a tener un fuzz de unos 500 verdes. Paso. Tal cual Roberto. Para eso prefiero comprar un USA, y meterle cautín yo biggrin A todo esto, el Rat te tira una distorsión bastante comprimida y con buen sustain. Muy cerca al Muff... Si es el Turbo, mejor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danyprez Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 big muff, delay analogo y compresor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedexATON Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 CREO que para la gira de PULSE usaba un RAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javoooh Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 CREO que para la gira de PULSE usaba un RAT En Pulse tenia los 2 , Big Muff y un RAT II + Tube Driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baro Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Buenas! Yo toco en un tributo a Floyd donde abarcamos casi todas las "etapas" y me defiendo muy bien con un big muff triangle (DIY) + un tubescreamer ts-808 (DIY). Después tengo un Electric Mistress y un "El Capistan", nada más. La dinámica se la das con los dedos y los potes y micros de la strato. Abrazo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javier0al Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Vayan a Gilmourish.com ahi encontraran todo lo que se necesita. respecto a Amps, violas pick ups, Big Muff, Fuzz Face, Delays etc. etc. es lo mejor de la web. saludos y suerte! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycoco_86 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Hola como va? Gilmour tiene un sonido muy ambiental para mi, xxx que en la cadena de pedales un delay vas a tener que tener, si es analogico mejor. al principio usaba un delay a cinta junto con un fuzz face y un univibe, despues pasó a usar de todo. Pero por ejemplo si queres sacar el sonido de Shine on you crazy diamond, el gordo utilizó un dynacomp, un coloursound para boostear, un phaser 90 y un echo rec, yo por ejemplo, reemplazo el colorsound por un white pony y el echo rec por un carbon copy y mediante perilleo de potes de la viola logro un tono "similar". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxistrat Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Ante la posibilidad de gastar mucho en gas y que sólo me sirva para un tono particular, en este caso el del gordo DG, empecé a buscar cosas más versatiles. Entonces me armé un cuadro con lo básico y de ahi a empezar a probar. Comp= Dynacomp Od+ dist+ fuzz = Jekyl & Hyde + Big muff pi Delay= DL4 Phaser: Mutron phasor. Me queda un Chorus y un tremolo que aun sigo en busca con el mismo concepto algo que me de versatilidad poder jugar a Gilmour seriamente pero poder tocar otras cosas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javier0al Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Aca va el set up de Pulse: PULSE 1994 Effects, guitars and amps Settings and setups Although PULSE and the 1994 world tour sees David using the most complex rig to date the period also marks the return of many of his old effects and amps. During the early 90s the grunge movement rediscovers Big Muffs and analog pedals and David also seem to be inspired by this. The decision to perform Dark Side of the Moon in its entirety also meant going back to the album and replicate sounds for authenticity. Despite the grand scale of the stage rig David would rarely used more than 3-4 pedals at once allowing the guitar and powerful Hiwatt rig to shine through. Effect pedals, racks and additional units 1994 live performances Pedals were placed on top of the racks. All effects are controlled by the Bob Bradshaw foot board. Boss CS-2 compressor MXR Dynacomp Ibanez CP-9 compressor Boss MZ-2 Pete Cornish P2 Chandler Tube Driver (#1 clean boost) ProCo RAT II Boss GE-7 (assigned for RAT) Pete Cornish SS-2 Boss GE-7 (assigned for SS-2) Sovtek Big Muff (Ciwil War model) Chandler Tube Driver (#2 overdrive) Boss GE-7 Additional units placed aside the Bradshaw foot board Jim Dunlop/Heil Talk Box Digitech Whammy 1 Ernie Ball volume pedal Ernie Ball expression pedal (modified volume pedal for Whammy) Effect signal flow including additional units and racks Boss CS2> MXR Dynacomp> Ibanez CP9> Digitech Whammy I>Boss MZ2> Pete Cornish P2> Chandler Tube Driver #1 (clean boost) > ProCo RAT + Boss GE7> Pete Cornish SS2 + Boss GE7> Sovtek Big Muff> Chandler Tube Driver #2 (overdrive)> Electric Mistress> UniVibe> Boss CE2> Demeter Tremulator> Boss GE7> Alembic preamp> Ernie Ball volume pedal (guitars and lap steels)> MXR Digital Delay System I> TC2290 Digital Delay> Lexicon PCM70 Digital Delay> signal splits in stereo> Dynacord CLS222 Leslie Sim> Boss CE2 (left channel)> amps. Left side of the top rack pedal board. L-R: Boss CS2, ProCo RAT, Pete Cornish P2, Boss GE-7, MXR Dynacomp, Ibanez CP9, Boss MZ2, Chandler Tube Driver. Right side of the top rack pedal board. L-R: Pete Cornish SS2, Sovteck Big Muff, Chandler Tube Driver, 3 Boss GE7. Note: Pete Cornish modified most of David’s effects for both correct level and impedance matching. He also included several custom features for improved tone and usability, – such as changing capacitors to hight temperature, low leakage, types and changing transistors and resistors to low noise types. - All effects has specially designed separate power supplies to prevent currant interferance. - The Boss GE-7 EQs are modified by Cornish to give a flatter response at “0″ and a better overall signal. - The Ernie Ball volume pedal is modified with a 10k pot to reduce high end signal loss. - The Cornish Soft Sustain is an early version of the current SS-2 including a Boss GE-7 EQ with the sliders ontop of the box. This feature was never used. - The UniVibe has been modified into a rack unit with a 2-mode switch for fast and slow settings with individual speed controls. Effect rack 1 (left) Furman PL-8 power conditioner and light controller - used only for lighting the rack Pete Cornish routing system Pete Cornish Acoustic Preamp with D.I. (Unknown unit) Alembic F-2B tube preamp Peterson R450 Strobe tuner EMO Power Distribution System A graphic illustration of the Pete Cornish routing system in the left side rack. The system allowed for multiple effect combinations controled with the Bradshaw foot control board. Image used with permission from Frédéric Peynet. Effect rack 2 (right) 1. Furman PL-8 power conditioner and light controller - used only for lighting the rack 2. TC Electronics TC-2290 Digital Delay - main delay unit 3. Uni-Vibe (modified for rack) 4. DigiTech ISP-33B Super Harmony pitch shifter - controlled with a customized Ernie Ball pedal 5. Lexicon PCM-70 digital effects processor - multi tap delay for Binson effects 6. MXR Digital Delay System II (ventilation grill) 7. Phil Taylor rack unit with customized effects (left to right) - Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress - Boss CE2 chorus (labeled mono chorus) - Demeter Tremulator tremolo - Boss CE2 chorus (labeled left chorus) 8. Dynacord CLS-222 Leslie simulator (ventilation grill) 9. Samson UR-5 UHF Dual wireless reciever 10. Peterson R450 Strobe tuner Top units of the right side effect rack: TC Electronic 2290 Dynamic Digital Delay, UniVox UniVibe (modified into a rack unit by Phil Taylor), Digitech ISP-33B Super Harmony pitch shifter, Lexicon PCM-70 effects processor (for delays), MXR Digital Delay System II, Phil Taylor custom effect rack including Electric Mistress, Boss CE-2 (mono), Demeter Tremulator, Boss CE2 (left) and below a Dynacord CLS-222 Leslie simulator. Pete Cornish and Bradshaw systems David’s system was built to be as user friendly as possible with the cleanest possible audio signal, using only quality components to eliminate hums and RF interferance. The Pete Cornish routing system in the left rack, is basically 24 send/returns controlled via the Bradshaw footboard, which was modified by Cornish (same board as used in 1987-90). It had individual on/off switches for all send/returns and a microprocessor which calls up presets from the rack units. Guitars and amps 1994 live performances Fender Stratocaster - 1983 ‘57 reissue, candy apple red alder body with white pickguard, maple neck, EMG-SA active pickups (with EMG-EXG expander and SPC midrange presence controls) and shortened tremolo arm. Fender Stratocaster (spare) - 1983 ‘57 reissue, candy apple red alder body with white pickguard, maple neck, EMG-SA active pickups (with EMG-EXG expander and SPC midrange presence controls) and shortened tremolo arm. Fender Stratocaster (spare) - 1983 ‘57 reissue, blonde alder body with white pickguard, maple neck, EMG-SA active pickups (with EMG-EXG expander and SPC midrange presence controls) and shortened tremolo arm. – brought on as a spare and never seen used. Fender Telecaster - 1952 reissue, butterscotch blonde ash body, black pickguard and maple neck. D drop tuning for Run Like Hell. Fender Telecaster - 1952 reissue, butterscotch blonde ash body, black pickguard and maple neck. Regular tuning for Astronomy Domine. Jedson lap steel (red) - Fitted with a EMG-H pickup. Open Em chord tuning (E B E G B E) for One of These Days and High Hopes. Fender Deluxe lap steel (blonde) - Blonde, stock pickups. Open G chord tuning (D G D G B E) for Great Gig in The Sky (replacing the blonde Jedson). Gibson J-200 Celebrity acoustic steel string guitar - EMG and Crown picups with separate outputs. Gibson J-200 Celebrity acoustic steel string guitar - EMG and Crown picups with separate outputs. D A D G A D tuning for Poles Apart. Gibson Chet Atkins Electro Classical nylon string guitar - High Hopes. David with his two main guitars for the tour - the candy apple red 1983 Fender '57 reissue Stratocaster with EMG SA pickups and the Fender '52 reissue Telecaster. David had two identical Telecasters, one for Run Like Hell with drop D tuning and one in regular tuning for Astronomy Domine. David pictured with a Gibson J-200 Celebrity acoustic steel string and the red Jedson lap steel that were used on High Hopes and One of These Days with an open Em chord tuning. Hiwatt DR103 All Purpose 100W heads - With Mullard 4xEL34’s power tubes and 4xECC83’s pre-amp tubes and modified by Cornish to just use the power amp stage (master volume and presence controls) and for linked normal and brilliance inputs. One amp is dry and the other has a Boss CE-2 chorus signal. The third head is a spare. 3 Hiwatt STA-100 Slaves amp heads - With Mullard tubes. These amps had no preamp stage. One was powering the Hail Talk Box with a dummy load, and the other two powered the Doppola rotating speakers. Alembic F-2B tube preamp - Main preamp for the rig. 2 WEM Super Starfinder 200 cabinets - with 4×12†Fane Crescendo speakers. 2 Marshall JCM 800 400w cabinets - with 4×12†Celestion G12M speakers. 2 Doppola rotating speakers - with 2 6″ 100W speakers in each. David stage setup during the Division Bell tour. L-R: Mic stand with monitor mixer and a Heil Talk Box, the Bradshaw foot control board with two Ernie Ball volume pedals (one used as expression for the Whammy effect), far on the back is the main effects rack with the pedals on top and Cornish routing system in the left side of rack. Behind David has his stereo setup with the Doppola rotating speakers, Marshall and WEM cabs. Guitar and amp setups David used Dunlop Tortex and Guild heavy gauge picks. All electric guitars are strung with GHS Boomers strings (customized set 0.10-0.48) and acoustics with Ernie Ball Earthwound Lights strings. WEM and Marshall speaker cabinets are mic’ed with Shure SM57 and Neumann U-87 microphones and Doppola rotating speaker cabs with Neuman KM-86. David is also seen using Sennheiser microphones for the main speaker cabs. Further reading See these in-depth features for more on David’s gear: Big Muff, The Red Stratocaster, Telecasters, Alembic F-2B preamp, Hiwatt amps & WEM cabinets and Doppolas. Fuente: http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=2117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javier0al Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Aca va como van seteados los efectos por cada tema: PULSE – Settings and setups Effects, guitars and amps Settings and setups Keep in mind that all effect settings and setups are based on pictures and video from a certain date and/or interviews and 3rd hand transcriptions that are subject to interpretation. David often make adjustments and may not even be consequent in how he’s using the equipment. This feature should therefore only be used as a guideline for your own setup and not as a gospel. It’s also wise to acknowledge that technique, place and time, studio trickery and who knows what plays a role in David’s tones in addition to the equipment. Boss CS-2 - level 2:00, attack 11:00, sustain 11:30 (o’clock) MXR Dynacomp - output 2:00, sustain 10:30 (o’clock) Ibanez CP-9 - attack 11:00, level 11:00, threshold 2:00 (o’clock) Big Muff - sustain 70%, volume 50-60%, tone 20-50% Pete Cornish P-2 - sustain 1:00, tone 11:00, volume 12:00 (o’clock) ProCo RAT II - distortion 1:00, filter 2:00, volume 2:00 (o’clock) Soft Sustain - volume 12:00, tone 1:00, sustain 12:30 (o’clock) Chandler Tube Driver #1 (volume boost) - level 2:00, hi 2:00, low 2:00, drive 8:00 (o’clock) Chandler Tube Driver #2 (overdrive) - level 11:30, hi 11:30, low 3:00, drive 4:00 (o’clock) CE-2 Chorus - speed 11:00, depth 1:00 (o’clock) Uni-Vibe - volume 2:00, intensity 12:00, slow speed 2:00, fast speed 4:00 (o’clock), mode: chorus Note: This is an original UniVox Uni-Vibe customized into a rack unit by Phil Taylor. The unit has a toggle switch for fast and slow speed to compensate for the expression pedal. The speed can be adjusted with separate controls. - Please note that very little from the recording sessions is confirmed. I have sticked to using generic terms as overdrive and distortion, rather than guessing which pedal David’s using unless confirmed info is available. Shine On You Crazy Diamond Stratocaster, neck and bridge pickups - intro solo: CS2, DynaComp, EQ “Câ€, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - Syd’s Theme: CS2, CE2, EQ “Bâ€, PCM70, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - 2nd solo, verse: CS2, Tube Driver #2, TC2290, Doppolas - outro: CS2, DynaComp, CE2, TC2290, L.Chorus, Doppolas Astronomy Domine Telecaster, bridge pickup - rhythms: CS2, Tube Driver #2, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - solo: CS2, Tube Driver #2, MXR DDL, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas What Do You Want From Me Stratocaster, neck and bridge pickups - rhythms and solos: CS2, RAT, Tube Driver #1, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Learning to Fly Stratocaster, bridge pickup - rhythms: CS2, Tube Driver #2, TC2290, CE2 left channel Keep Talking Stratocaster, bridge pickup - rhythms: CS2, DynaComp, CE2, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Coming Back to Life Stratocaster, neck and bridge pickups - intro solo: CS2, DynaComp, EQ “Aâ€, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - rhythms: CS2, Tube Driver #2, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - solos: CS2, Tube Driver #2, MXR DDL, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Hey You Stratocaster, bridge pickup rhythms: Sovtek Big Muff, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas solo: CS2, Sovtek Big Muff, Tube Driver #1, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas A Great Day for Freedom Stratocaster, neck pickup - rhythms and solo: CS2, Dynacomp, SS2, Tube Driver #2, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Sorrow intro: Sovtek Big Muff, Tube Driver #1, EQ “Aâ€, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas rhythms: Sovtek Big Muff, Tube Driver #1, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas solo: CS2, Sovtek Big Muff, Tube Driver #1, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas High Hopes Acoustic nylon string, Jedson lap steel - slide: CS2, Tube Driver #2, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Another Brick in the Wall (part 2) Stratocaster, neck pickup intro: CS2, Dynacomp, CE2, EQ “Bâ€, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas rhythms verse: CS2, Dynacomp, CE2 left channel, Doppolas rhythtms chorus: CS2, Tube Driver #2, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas solo: CS2, Tube Driver #2, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Breathe/Breathe (reprise) Stratocaster, bridge pickup - CS2, Tube Driver #1, UniVibe, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas On the Run - no guitars Time Stratocaster, mid and bridge pickups - intro: CS2, CP9, CE2, TC2290, PCM70, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - rhythms: Tube Driver #2, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - solo: P2 Big Muff, Tube Driver #2, UniVibe, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas The Great Gig in the Sky Jedson lap steel - slides: CS2, Dynacomp, EQ “Bâ€, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Money Stratocaster, bridge pickup - rhythms: SS2, Tube Driver #2, CE2 left channel - 1st and 3rd solo: CS2, Sovtek Big Muff, Tube Driver #1, TC2290, CE2 left channel - 2nd solo: RAT, Tube Driver #1, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Us & Them Stratocaster, neck pickup - rhythms verse: CS2, Tube Driver #1, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - rhythms chorus: CS2, Tube Driver #1, Tube Driver #2, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Any Colour You Like Stratocaster, neck pickup - rhythms: CS2, Tube Driver #1, CLS222, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - solo: CS2, Tube Driver #1, Tube Driver #2, CLS222, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Brain Damage Stratocaster, neck pickup - rhythms: CS2, Tube Driver #1, CLS222, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Eclipse Stratocaster, neck pickup - rhythms: CS2, Tube Driver #1, CLS222, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Wish You Were Here Acoustic steel string guitar Comfortably Numb Stratocaster, bridge pickup - rhythms and 1st solo: Sovtek Big Muff, Tube Driver #1, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - 2nd solo: CS2, Sovtek Big Muff, Tube Driver #1, TC2290, CE2 left channel, Doppolas - 2nd solo “wavingâ€: CS2, Sovtek Big Muff, Tube Driver #1, TC2290, MXR DDL CE2 left channel, Doppolas Run Like Hell Telecaster, bridge pickup - CS2, CE2, CE2 left channel, Doppolas Saludos! 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shaspar Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Ante todo buenos dias! Mira White, para el sonido gilmourish, harian falta interminables pedales, amplificadores y racks muy caros y practicamente inaccesibles en este país. Pero para conseguir un sonido lindo, que se le acerque bastante, hay 6 puntos principales: -Un valvular de esos que tienen unos cleans que te rompen la cabeza. Lo "ideal" sería algun Hiwatt custom o Fender Twin Reverb, ya que el gordo usaba el Custom dr103 y le metía un pre de Twin, pero si queres algo para tocar en tu casa, o por ahí en algun barsito, el Laney Cub es un amplificador totalmente valvular, dentro de todo económico que se lleva muy bien con los pedales. -Un Delay. El delay es de vida o muerte en el sonido gilmourish, lo ideal es tener alguno análogo para los primeros discos (Por ejemplo, el Two Timer de BBE que es una locura, o sino el Carbon Copy), y si ya querés hacer algo estilo pulse, algún digital onda Boss DD2 iría bien (un Nova Delay de TC electronics sale una fortuna nuevo) -El Big Muff. Bueno, este es el sonido caracteristico en los solos distorsionados del gordo, si bien el los boostea con un overdrive como el Colorsound Overdriver o Tube Driver, con eso podés ir tranqui, lo ideal es conseguirte algun clon de algun Triangle o Ram's Head, porque el Big Muff que venden nuevo, es muy caro y mete bastante ruido, digamos, hace mucho quilombo para ese "sonido gilmourish". (Si no llegás al valvular, y tenés un transistorizado, el RAT es la opcion IDEAL) -Modulaciones. Flanger, chorus, univibe. Si bien es casi imposible conseguir un Yamaha rotatorio, hay pedales que se asemejan bastante, como el Rotovibe, Univibe de Dunlop, etc, pero salen mas de dos lucas y sinceramente a mi parecer es mucha guita y mi presupuesto no me lo permite. Las modulaciones le dan ese sonido "cremoso" a los solos de gilmour, fijate en el solo de The Final Cut y vas a ver de lo que hablo. -Overdrive. Para solos por ejemplo, de Shine On, un leve overdrive es ideal para sonar "parecido". Aparte, Gilmour lo usa como booster del Big Muff, digamos que le saca ese toque filoso que tiene el Muff y lo transforma poniéndolo antes del over. Un Boss BD2 o un Tube Driver son IDEALES. -Compresor. El compresor, mas allá de usarlo en solos como Another Brick y Shine On, COMPRIME la distorsion, por ende le da ese sonido gordo y grueso, cosa que hace mas caracteristico el sonido de su Big Muff. Uno ideal seria el Dyna Comp, CS3 o la alternativa nacional que es perfecta es el Mask 5 de Cluster Bueno eso es lo ideal a tener en cuenta para tener el tono de Gilmour, pero eso si, preocupate mas en la técnica, en como hace sus bendings, cuanto tiempo piensa la nota antes de tocarla, ya que mas que todo su rack de efectos, el sonido sale de sus dedos. (Suena trillado, pero es asi) cualquier cosa chiflame! Un saludo !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto schulz Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 David Gilmour's Pink Floyd 1994 Rig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto schulz Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Perdón, Descripción For the “Pulse†tour we modified David Gilmour’s stage system to include the following effects (via the Pete Cornish Routing Unit): 1) Boss CS-2 Compressor 13) Uni-vibe (Rack Mounted) 2) MXR Dynacomp 14) Boss CE-2 (1) 3) Ibanez Compressor 15) Tremulator 4) IPS 33B Pitch Shift 16) Boss GE-7 (1) 5) Hyperfuzz 17) Boss GE-7 (2) 6) Pete Cornish P-2 Fuzz 18) Boss GE-7 (3) 7) Chandler Tube Driver (1) 19) MXR DDL II 8) Pro-Co Rat 20) TC2290 9) Pete Cornish Soft-Sustain-2 21) PCM 70 10) Sovtek Big Muff 22) Doppola 11) Chandler Tube Driver (2) 23) Dynachord Leslie Effect 12) E.H.Electric Mistress 24) Boss CE-2 (2) A todo esto Sumarle DEDOS, que siempre es lo mas importante. Saludos Otto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baro Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Adhiero perfectamente con Shaspar, puedo agregar que como modulaciones David siempre usó el Electric Mistress (se nota bastante en el solo de Dogs o en Young Lust, por ejemplo) y posteriormente un CE-2 (sonido PULSE). Como overdrive también te sirve un ts9 o ts808 (ojo, va DESPUES del Big Muff, no antes) y como delay cualquiera, idealmente uno que tenga un rango de tiempo de repetición amplio y que te permita opacar o hacer brillante el sonido, para que no "moleste" a la señal original y a la vez puedas simular las diferentes eras de Floyd (delays analógicos o digitales). No es necesario gastar mucho, y si sos de hacerte tus pedales DIY, el over y el muff están resueltos. Yo tengo grabado algo de Floyd con mis pedales DIY, si querés escuchar chiflame. Como te dijeron más arriba, lo principal es la forma de tocar. Abrazo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Todos le dan mucha bola a la disto/fuzz que usar, pero pocos le dan la suficiente importancia a buscar el OD que vaya después en la cadena. Gilmour siempre usó el muff con algun over atrás usado como eq y/o booster. El triange o ram's head solo, sin el colorsound overdriver moldeando el sonido no suena a Gilmour, por más que agarres el que se fabricó 10 minutos antes que el de DG. Tengo clonados los 2. El big muff si bien es oscurito, scoopeado, y con poca peluza para ser un fuzz, es demasiado áspero para el sonido Gilmour. Ahora, le ponés atrás el colorsound sacando apeniiitas agudos y boosteando un toque la señal de algún valvular con el limpio (muy) ligeramente quebrado, y es otra cosa totalmente distinta. Queda ese sonido. Delays en mi humilde opinión cualquier digital en 400-500 ms y 3 repeticiones va bien. Chorus o flanger si bien el ce2 suena mas gordito que otros, no me gastaría una fortuna en comprarlo ni el electric mistress. O al menos no en primer lugar. Si no tenés 100% cerrado el tema Fuzz+OD por más maquillaje que le pongas de modulaciones caras, no suena a Gilmour porque falta la base. Muchos ponen lo del TS con un Rat como alternativa para hacer lo mismo. Para mi gusto suena muy ochentoso con medios-altos para el sonido de DG. A lo sumo para algunas cosas de los últimos discos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxistrat Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Todos le dan mucha bola a la disto/fuzz que usar, pero pocos le dan la suficiente importancia a buscar el OD que vaya después en la cadena.Gilmour siempre usó el muff con algun over atrás usado como eq y/o booster. El triange o ram's head solo, sin el colorsound overdriver moldeando el sonido no suena a Gilmour, por más que agarres el que se fabricó 10 minutos antes que el de DG. Tengo clonados los 2. El big muff si bien es oscurito, scoopeado, y con poca peluza para ser un fuzz, es demasiado áspero para el sonido Gilmour. Ahora, le ponés atrás el colorsound sacando apeniiitas agudos y boosteando un toque la señal de algún valvular con el limpio (muy) ligeramente quebrado, y es otra cosa totalmente distinta. Queda ese sonido. Muchos ponen lo del TS con un Rat como alternativa para hacer lo mismo. Para mi gusto suena muy ochentoso con medios-altos para el sonido de DG. A lo sumo para algunas cosas de los últimos discos. Acá coincido con vos, yo uso el jekyll para modelar el BM porque sino es una bola. Comparto que el secreto esta en ese sonido y un Chorus redondo. Le levanto un poco los agudos al jekyll apenas de gain y el volumen no muy pasado como para que respete el volumen. Ahh y me olvidaba atras de todo el Dynacomp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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